is it hard not to make it about the one who is in the white house now, michelle obama? >> i certainly -- she is her own beautiful individual person and i'm playing like, you know, in a comedy. but i was inspired by her arms and her grace and her awareness of fitness and health. and i really admire her for that. and i think all of her own personal first lady programs are founded in common sense. i really appreciate common sense because i feel like it's rare. >> that's true. >> unfortunately. >> a little too rare in washington. that segues well into our first topic in take three, talking about the first lady and more broadly about women in the public eye. there's a piece in this week in the washington post that focused on our ladifirst lady's, shall call it, derriere. >> what? i would like to see the derrieres of the people who are criticizing her. >> well said. >> she looks pretty healthy to me. she's a 5'11" woman. >> she is. she's a tall woman. >> statuesque. >> natalie, you deal with this, too. being in the public eye, someone who is always in view of the world, espec